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「皇室はストレスの塊」=三笠宮寛仁さまが米紙と会見(時事通信)
A Font of Commentary Amid Japan’s Taciturn Royals – New York Times

「皇室はストレスの塊」=三笠宮寛仁さまが米紙と会見
[時事通信 2007/10/21-16:59]

 【ニューヨーク20日時事】三笠宮寛仁さまは20日付のニューヨーク・タイムズ紙に掲載されたインタビューで、「皇室はストレスの塊のようだ」と指摘、ご自身のアルコール依存症などの背景には家庭内の問題も含め、こうしたストレスの存在があるとの考えを示された。皇族が海外メディアのインタビューに応じ、皇室の内情や意見を明らかにするのは異例。同紙はインタビュー時期は明示しなかったが、最近、1時間40分にわたって行われたという。
 同紙によると、寛仁さまはご家庭について、信子さまとの結婚生活も26年におよび、家庭内にいろいろな難しい問題があると語った。その上で皇室についても、さまざまな問題があると指摘。一例として、皇太子さまの「皇太子妃の人格否定」会見を取り上げ、「皇太子に長い手紙を出し、詳しい説明を求めた。返事があれば、いくらか前進することができたであろうが、わたしの意見に礼を述べた返事しかなかった」と述べた。

The Saturday Profile
A Font of Commentary Amid Japan’s Taciturn Royals
[New York Times By NORIMITSU ONISHI Published: October 20, 2007]

TOKYO

NEVER tight-lipped about his recurring battle with cancer, he still surprised many Japanese by admitting that he was an alcoholic and checking himself into rehab over the summer. Family problems, he explained.

The inevitable strain of a quarter-century marriage, a cousin’s cryptic comments, existential questions about the nature of family and life itself, all of this, he said openly, had contributed to his heavier-than-usual drinking.

The family in question is none other than Japan’s imperial family, and the recovering patient is Prince Tomohito of Mikasa, a first cousin of Emperor Akihito. The family’s other members are only seen, if they are seen at all, waving at some official event. But this prince has never shied away from offering his personal opinions on everything from preserving the throne’s unbroken male line ? even, he wrote mischievously two years ago, by reviving the concubine system ? to the private burdens of royalty.

“It’s not only the past one or two years,” the prince said of the stress behind his alcoholism. “As long as I can remember, the imperial family’s been like one big ball of stress.”

On a recent afternoon, Prince Tomohito, 61, known as the “bearded prince” for his goatee and mustache, appeared in good spirits at his residence in the Akasaka Estate, the sprawling walled-off, wooded grounds in central Tokyo that is home to most of the imperial family’s 23 members.

A beige jacket hung loosely on the prince, still well underweight because of his various illnesses. He wore dark blue slippers that appeared to be the only concession to Japanese custom in a Western-style reception room dominated by a grand piano and chandeliers. Having studied for two years at Oxford, he sometimes sprinkled his Japanese with English words.

The prince has been in and out of the hospital since he was found to have throat cancer some 16 years ago, and last year he underwent his eighth operation for cancer. In a society where people remain reluctant to disclose their illnesses, the prince said he saw “no meaning in hiding” his cancer and even wrote a book about it.

“Our family’s DNA is highly susceptible to cancer,” the prince said. “In two generations, six of us have already been afflicted with it. So I had always wondered when my turn would come.”

Still, the prince attributed his recurring cancer to stress, the same kind of stress that, he has said publicly, first led to his overdrinking in his 30s and aggravated it in the last couple of years.

The prince, who has two daughters with his wife, Princess Nobuko, cited difficulties at home. “Things became messed up inside our home,” he said, adding, “When you’ve been together for 26 years, well, you know.”

Problems in the extended family also affected him deeply.

“There are all sorts of problems now inside the imperial family,” he said. “For example, I threw myself into the whirl surrounding the crown prince’s comments about personality denial.”

The prince was referring to an extraordinarily emotional news conference given three years ago by Crown Prince Naruhito about his wife, Princess Masako, the Harvard-educated former diplomat who has long suffered from depression and rarely appears in public. It is believed that her illness stems from the intense pressure she felt to bear a male heir to the throne ? pressure that was relieved last year with the birth of a son to the crown prince’s younger brother and his wife.

“There has been a move to deny Masako’s career and personality,” the crown prince said, in comments that seemed to put an individual’s happiness on par with, if not above, the imperial family itself, comments that were endlessly scrutinized for their exact meaning and intended audience.

Prince Tomohito said he wrote the crown prince a long letter asking for further explanation.

“If he had responded,” Prince Tomohito said, “I think we could have made some progress. But there was only a reply thanking me for my invaluable opinion.”

PRINCE TOMOHITO was born four days after the Emperor Hirohito renounced his divinity on New Year’s Day in 1946. A year later, the Imperial Household Law of 1947, imposed during the American occupation, abolished 11 other branches of the imperial family, thereby shrinking the pool of male heirs to the Chrysanthemum Throne.

The prince describes growing up in a simpler age, riding Tokyo’s Yamanote Line by himself to the Peers School, before bodyguards were assigned to all royals. Compared with the other royals, the prince said with a smile, he was a “delinquent” youth who got into skirmishes with students at a nearby school run by North Koreans.

“We used to fight with them a lot,” he said. “Whenever they’d spot the Peers School uniforms, they’d come at us.”

After college the prince took up the kind of active life unknown to this imperial family. He focused his considerable energies on helping the disabled. He led efforts to build facilities for the disabled and even taught some of them to ski.

Like many a postwar Japanese salaryman, the prince found meaning in work.

“I was a workaholic,” he said.

Perhaps there were nagging doubts, too.

In 1982 the prince, then 36, grabbed headlines when he said he wanted to secede from the imperial family, citing his desire to devote himself to his work. The prince declined to say what lay behind his 1982 wish, perhaps because the passage of a quarter of a century had quelled whatever doubts there were.

“If you ask me what the imperial family is all about, and I think and think and think about it, the very final conclusion is that our meaning lies in our simply existing,” the prince said, holding a cigarette holder in his left hand, the first of three cigarettes he would smoke in a 100-minute interview.

The royals, he said, could fulfill their duties simply by “waking up in the morning, eating breakfast, eating lunch, eating dinner, then going to sleep, repeating that 365 days a year.”

ACCORDING to Japanese myth, the first emperor, Jimmu, a descendant of the sun goddess Amaterasu, began his reign 2,667 years ago, though historians trace the start of Japan’s imperial system to the fourth or fifth century. Emperors are said to be descended in an unbroken patrilineal line, with each generation passing on the male Y chromosome to the next.

“The Y chromosome resides in my body,” the prince said. “It is the same thing that resided in Emperor Jimmu ? it’s extremely spiritual.”

That is why the unbroken male line must be preserved at all cost, he said. The other imperial branches, abolished during the American occupation, could be restored or adoptions permitted from within those families. And concubines?

“That is a joke,” the prince said, in English, with a twinkle in his eyes.

Would the bearded prince choose to return, in another life, as a royal?

After a five-second silence the prince said with a laugh, “I’ve had enough. I’ve really done all I wanted in 61 years. I’ve broken old conventions.” He then referred to a popular belief in Japan: “I’m blood type B, so I like to try new things.”

The prince then refined his answer, saying that both imperial life and the commoner’s life no doubt had their advantages and disadvantages. “So when you think about who is happier, whether it’s the imperial family or the people,” the prince said, “there is no answer, none.”

皇族がストレスの固まりであるというのは、想像もつくし、そういうことを言いたい気持ちにも同情はしますが、そんなにストレスなら、象徴天皇制などという厄介な制度は早くなくしたほうが良いのかなと、あらためて思うだけです。

男系論についても、神武天皇のY染色体という持論が出てきますが、ご本人が「多分に精神的なもの」と言われている通り。そんなもので日本全体を振り回そうという巷の議論の、なんとばかばかしいことか。

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